perot, if the -- -- in the cold war environment, what should be the overriding u.s. national interest and what can the united states do around what can it afford to do to defend that national interest? >> well, if you're not superpower.e not a i have one and 1/8. one is we have to have the money to pay for defense. we've got to manufacture here, believe it or not folks, you can't ship it all overseas, you have to make it here. you can't convert from potato chips to emergency. we've got to make things here. you just can't ship them overseas more. i hope we talk more about that. the second thing, on prhave to help russia succeed in the revolution and all the republics. when we talk about russia, we're thinking about many countries. that's pennies on the dollar. third, we've got all kind of agreements on paper and some being executed on getting rid of nuclear war heads. russia and the republics are t of control at best than what we control right now. it's an unstable situation. you have every counselry -- country over there trying to buy weapons. we really need to nail